In this recent interview, AICGS President Dr. Jackson Janes sits down with Deutschlandfunk to discuss the moral dilemma between the U.S.-Turkey alliance against the Islamic State (IS) and the Turkish government’s renewed aggression towards the Kurds. Dr. Janes acknowledges that in such dilemma, one has to “choose between two Evils,” but asserts that the EU and the U.S. needs to approach the Turkish government together to solve the conflict.

The interview originally appeared in Deutschlandfunk on July 29, 2015. Read the interview transcript or listen to the interview recording here.